Biometrischer Sicherheitscheck Indonesien

[pingerlo]

heee werner

mich wundert mit welcher geschwindigkeit diese sachen installiert werden.
was da wohl dahintersteckt?

egal da muessen wir , im wahrsten sinne des wortes , durch.

2 indonesische minuten , vergleichbar mit der antwort:sebentar , nicht schlecht.

liebe gruesse michael

[Warkop]

Zitat von dowe

hallo zusammen


der vorgang soll nur 2 minuten/besucher dauern

Na ja, da wenn Du in der Schlange stehst und 30 Leute vor Dir sind dann bist Du gleich bei ner Stunde.
Prost Mahlzeit!

[dowe]

hallo zusammen



das neue system soll mit dem 1.5.2010 in betrieb gehen .

es wurden schon personen zu testzwecken fotografiert , damit die mitarbeiter der imigrasi den umgang mit dem neuen system lernen

Zitat von dowe

der vorgang soll nur 2 minuten/besucher dauern

2 minuten soll alleine die abnahme der fingerabdruecke dauern


na dann warten wir mal ab

ich hoffe das sich bei meinem naechsten besuch alles schon eingespielt hat und alle schalter besetzt sind , damit das ganze nicht zu lange dauert

[dowe]

hallo zusammen



das neue system zur "terroristenabwehr" ist schon in betrieb

touristen , welche gestern abend gegen 23:00 uhr landeten mussten durch den neuen security check !!
nach gut 3 stunden konnten sie schon den terminal verlassen und waren um 02:30 im hotel .



ich weiss zwar nicht warum dieser ganze aufwand betrieben wird :

- denn die bombenleger kommen ja aus dem eigenen land !!!!!!!!
- indonesier brauchen nicht durch diesen zirkus


ich habe nichts gegen sicherheit im gegenteil , war bei beiden attentaten auf bali (hatte einen tollen schutzengel )

[tomarv]

Vielleicht hat die Schnelligkeit der Installation etwas mit dem für Juni angekündigten Obama Besuch zu tun.??

Grüße

Thomas

[Balistar]

Zitat von dowe

nach gut 3 stunden konnten sie schon den terminal verlassen und waren um 02:30 im hotel .

Stimmt das wirklich? Also das würde mir schon die Lust nehmen nach Bali zu reisen, denn um 23:00 ist ja nicht wirklich viel los. Was machen die denn, wenn da zeitgleich 3 große Maschinen ankommen?? Feldbetten aufstellen??

Viele Grüße

Balistar

[pingerlo]

heee leute


Quelle: thejakartapost
Link: http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2...al-system.html


Ngurah Rai officials shelve new passenger arrival system

Wasti Atmodjo, The Jakarta Post, Denpasar | Wed, 05/05/2010 12:41 PM |

The Ngurah Rai International Airport management plans to stop the operation of the newly installed boarder control management (BCM) entry system, citing inefficiency and long queues at the airport's arrivals booths.
BCM was installed to improve the airport's data entry system enabling it to record the fingerprints, faces and passports of travelers. The data would be connected to the immigration office's data center.
Heru Legowo, the general manager of airport operator PT Angkasa Pura, explained that the system took 30 seconds longer that the old one.
"We are always faced with problems during the arrival of international flights. Hundreds of visitors always flock to the immigration counters. The old system was already chaotic, but the new system took 90 seconds to process one passenger," Legowo said.
The airport serves hundreds of international flights, which usually arrive simultaneously.
Airport senior immigration official Wilopo said the order to halt operation of the BCM was issued directly by the of Justice and Human Rights Ministry.
"We have no idea if and when the system will operate again," he said.
Legowo suggested that the immigration office open additional counters to accelerate processing arrivals.
"Flight arrivals follow a pattern and therefore we can predict our peak hours," he said, adding that the immigration office should have prepared additional personnel, facilities and support structures before operating the BCM.
Culture and Tourism Minister Jero Wacik had earlier expressed concern over the inefficiency of the system.
"We have received complaints from foreign visitors over our immigration services. The new system must eliminate the problem," he warned.


waere nicht indonesien , wenn alles glatt laufen wuerde.


liebe gruesse michael

[Karin Bali]

Es gibt Beschwerden über Beschwerden - wie es auch net anders zu erwarten war.

Meine Freundin hat am Samstag Nachmittag mehr als 4,5 Std. gewartet, bis ihre Bekannten aus dem Flughafen raus kamen ......

[Karin Bali]

Good news!



Link: http://www.balidiscovery.com/message...ge.asp?Id=6000



New Immigration Rules Revoked at Bali's Airport
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Reacting to Long Passenger Delays and Bitter Complaints, Minister of Justice Indefinitely Suspends New Border Control Measures at Bali's Airport.

(2010-05-10) After angry complaints from arriving tourists compelled to stand in line at Bali's airport for up to four or more hours, the border control management (BCM) procedures requiring fingerprints and photos of arriving passengers have been ditched on instructions from the Minister of Justice and Human Rights.

In operation for only a week, the additional layer of bureaucracy of photographing and fingerprinting arriving tourist was added to the tasks of immigration officers already overwhelmed with administering a multi-step visa-on-arrival process. During peak traffic times
at Bali's airports delays exceeding 4 hours were reported after the introduction of the new procedures.

On Monday, May 3, 2010, the fingerprinting and photography requirements were suspended until further notice reducing waiting time more normal parameters, but a still intolerable 2 hour period during peak traffic periods.

The government has promised not to reintroduce the system until an adequate amount of equipment and personnel can be put in place to facilitate the smooth flow-through of arriving passengers.

Immigration Comes Under Criticism

Despite the hasty retreat by immigration authorities, criticism of the poor level of service provided to Bali's inbound visitors persists.

Ida Bagus Ngurah Wijaya, the Chairman of the Bali Tourism Board (BTB), quoted in Radar Bali, said the short-live BCM measures did damage to Bali's tourism industry.

Wijaya said the now-abandoned police had little use and was just the latest in a list of "sloppy" actions performed by the agency in
charge of guarding the nation's gateways.

Citing another example, Wijaya pointed to the recent increase from a two-tiered US$10/US$25 visa-on-arrival policy to a flat US$25 fee when it was discovered that some US$300,000 in visa funds had been misappropriated by immigration officials at the Bali airport. Said Wijaya: "According to what I read in the newspaper, immigration increased the fee to reduce corrupt acts. This is their internal problem; this is not the proper policy to resolve the problem."

When the corruption of visa-on-arrival fees was discovered the officials involved were forced to return the stolen money and given administrative sanctions. Then, in order to avoid the future possibility of a 30-day US$25 visa fees being booked at the 7-day US$10 fee with the difference for wayward officials, the government merely increased the fee to US$25 for all visitors.

Wijaya also complained of the lack of prior consultation by Immigration with the Bali Tourism Boars and other
tourism stakeholders before major changes in immigration policy are introduced.

[Heikebali]

Seid gegrüßt!

Da kann ich nur froh sein, daß dieses procedere meiner 80jährigen Mutter und mir im April erspart blieb!!!
Wir sollten die Entwicklung "gelassen betrachten", aber SO kann man sich natürlich Touristen vergraulen...

Time will tell!

Lieben Gruß von Heike